i have recently been thinking about this as it was a big life changing decision.
only now do i realize it wasnt about doctrine.. the reason was because i wasnt happy and didnt respect the elders and the congregation was made up of unhappy people.. i was always being lectured for being happy.
when i had a study that came to the meeting i thought thats a good thing, and i was happy.
Thanks jwfacts..both for the reply and your web-page which helped me research the doctrine..i think its been a fantastic journey leaving, and it was a fantastic journey inside being a J.W . But i am not returning. Why? Because i despise politicians and thats how i see the structure of the organisation. Its government and individuals dont count.
I admire you jwfacts an individual.
i left the jws and went to a baptist church which was far better than anything i'd known before having been born into the dangerous cult of the watchtower corporation.. having travelled a path of spirituallity i have concluded that there is no god evident to me.
evolution?
i have no idea...i just live my life knowing that when i die there is nothing after it.
punk...i loved punk music it was because before punk music at that time in the 70s it was all so incredibly pretentiouse with groups like Yes and Rick bloody Wakeman being as flash and musically trained possible. Punk was a real revolution in England with high unemployment and job centers, punk music said kids have a future and all kids can be in a rock band.
So what has the above got to do with your rant? well i believe in acceptence and forgiveness and i believe the key to understanding for me is accepting music like Yes and Rick bloody Wakeman who made great music as did the Sex Pistols and The Jam and X ray spex and Niel Young...and it was all self centerd and it was all great as are lynyrd Skynyrd. My point is its music and my music is somebody elses football and somebody elses football is being a cathalic or j.w... So if God ever starts speaking to me he is ever lasting love and if he never speaks to me, i am still created and i believe i exist and " I Am" and that is who jesus claimed to be "I am..the ......" and if thats not good enough for God who created me he doesnt exist.
i have recently been thinking about this as it was a big life changing decision.
only now do i realize it wasnt about doctrine.. the reason was because i wasnt happy and didnt respect the elders and the congregation was made up of unhappy people.. i was always being lectured for being happy.
when i had a study that came to the meeting i thought thats a good thing, and i was happy.
thanks for the replys...phizzy i realized my friends whose company i preferrd were those i met on the ministry...when i left i was lucky i had this support. athiests, christians, rastofarians,muslims and agnostics...people who liked me and i liked them none took skin color, race,doctrine seriously.
building our life around self-deceit means we simply choose to ignore the bad and see only the good.. we filter.
we cover.
we hide the tell-tale.
Terry in this world i think we live in a room with the light on and the blinds down. Occassionally we are allowed to turn off the light and open the blinds. I look at my leaving the W.T as my moment the light was turned off and the blinds open. Was i lied to. No i dont see it that way, just imperfect people living in a room with the lights on and the blinds down.
building our life around self-deceit means we simply choose to ignore the bad and see only the good.. we filter.
we cover.
we hide the tell-tale.
Terry in this world i think we live in a room with the light on and the blinds down. Occassionally we are allowed to turn off the light and open the blinds. I look at my leaving the W.T as my moment the light was turned off and the blinds open. Was i lied to. No i dont see it that way, just imperfect people living in a room with the lights on and the blinds down.
i have recently been thinking about this as it was a big life changing decision.
only now do i realize it wasnt about doctrine.. the reason was because i wasnt happy and didnt respect the elders and the congregation was made up of unhappy people.. i was always being lectured for being happy.
when i had a study that came to the meeting i thought thats a good thing, and i was happy.
I have recently been thinking about this as it was a big life changing decision. Only now do i realize it wasnt about doctrine.
The reason was because i wasnt happy and didnt respect the elders and the congregation was made up of unhappy people.
I was always being lectured for being happy. When i had a study that came to the meeting i thought thats a good thing, and i was happy. But this wasnt so with the elders because the study didnt sit correctly and put his feet up on a chair so they wernt happy....oh i was happy when i met and displayed on my home wall a signed shirt of my favourite rock band..the elders wernt happy and said it was idol worship and asked me to take it down. ...blah blah blah i discoverd i was happy when i wasnt spiritual indoctrinated people, even if some were great people.
So i think thats why i left the witnesses and now i have more time to be happy....
after lurking for 7 and half years (is that a record?!
) its time for me to say hello.. so who am i, and whats my story?.
im a born in jw, with all my siblings, mother, wife and children in.
Hi wiizz i was baptised at Bowes Road, and i can relate to your experiences at Bethel. How? well my congregation had quite a lot of bethelites and they were so completely indoctrinated, no humor and very unloving. Nonetheless you got to feel for them trapped in a prison even if to them it appears with golden bars.
jw discourage higher education through conventions magazine etc.
in kindom ministry 2011 july they considered higher education as date, and use alcohol or drugs.
however if you look at the front page of the brochure "jehovah's witnesseswho are they?
well the W.T gave me a great education from the University of life. I failed.
for those that don't think the bible is the word of god, how do you disprove the prophecies recorded in the bible?
even for those that agree with the world of god, what makes you believe the prophecies are true?
looking to hear both sides of it..
I made up my own prophecy and it works for me.
God created the light out of the darkness" and so i say who created the darkness. Well the darkness is anything we created in our minds that only exist in our minds. Now this includes money, organisations and anythinking that exists that only exists in our minds.
I am happy living with my thoughts and the thoughts i have are my personal universe and they exist in my mind be it light or darkness.So is that a prophecy? for me it is and its all i need.
how many hours did you put in on average every week in doing wt activities?.
this would include:-.
i) the meetings and travelling time to/from,.
The song remains the same...i think the hardest hours of devotion are the challeging ones and the realization it was all in vain. It is my attitue and i think it is a question of attitue to do this with out anger. I mean now my attitude is no more hours wasted in vain.
I auestiond why i am evev on this site? But then i realized because ive learnt a lot and its not wasted hours devoted to the W.T. So i guess i try and turn the negative to a positive. I ve awoken to the ttatt and wont make the same mistake agin with other organisations such as media and government or anybody that wants my time for there benifit.
Hey your post has been read 305 times , i started a topic yesterday that was viewed with similar numbers. I think thats wow...
